In many other countries May Day serves a similar purpose. Ninety-nine percent of fans said no, with most lamenting the would-be loss of the Season 5 episode C***gate and the series signature insults. Hes the same guy just a little grayer here and there, maybe a little tanner. "Never mind, forget I ever said anything. As Sydney wrote, Mother. By a landslide. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sunday's series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyer's funeral. MANDEL RESPONDS: I could see that, he says of Mike as an ineffective but well-liked high school teacher. I've always assumed he was talking about finding her trash and whatever horrifying thing that was in it. So I think the level of depravity that happened here, I wasnt necessarily surprised. I feel like the real road not taken for him wouldve been like a childrens dentist. And what that says to me is, again, another picture of her weakness and her cowardice. Though she was fatally shot by the president of her fan club in 1995, the 23-year-old was able to accomplish some huge feats - from being credited with catapulting Latin music into the . In many places, workers toiled for at least 12 hours a day . Im just not sure either of them has the ability to get to that step. "She wasn't loving the idea of him being . When none of that came to pass, lets do the General thing early in the year and plan her funeral, and then lets jump ahead to the future and see it became the idea. On April 16, Selena Day, fans will put on their favorite Selena songs and remember the incredible impact the Tejano crooner had on music. And when you sow that your entire life, you reap sadness and isolation. Mike gives a morning press briefing about Selina's first state visit from the Israeli Prime Minister. If you did your job and stayed quiet, I think Ben would be harsh, but he would be relatively fair. He has no clue what is about to happen as they celebrate her nomination. "It's kind of important actually. Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. I wish in retrospect, we had managed to put maybe one, or two other clues along the way But there is no answer. I guess that would be a real problem. Julia and Tony said those scenes were difficult to shoot, just knowing the history between the characters and that they as actors were saying goodbye to this onscreen relationship as well, even though Gary didnt realize it. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Inside the business of TV with breaking news, expert analysis and showrunner interviews. We here at EW now continue coverage of the passing of Selina Meyer and the rest of the shows deficient souls. "I remember I was outside the room watching the monitor, hearing her go 'Gary' and I couldn't move. The Ericsson thing it was funny, it was actually Annas idea, and I thought it was very enjoyable. Was the government shutdown in season 2 taking place during labor day? Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. And I think this is the problem, it started many years ago, which is that people are looking down on elitism and education. I looked at this as, Well, maybe this will snap him out of it. Maybe hell wake up to the abuse. It just seems like it has to be something we dont know about at all., Gary had to tell Andrew that Selina wanted a divorce, just as he had to tell Ted about their split in that same Season 1 episode. He got what we were going for at the end there, and was proud to be a part of it, and it just put a huge smile on Julias and my faces. I think you try to stay in Garys world. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to . Its like, what the hell are you doing, dude? I kind of love that. Veep Showrunner David Mandel Responds to Fans Labor Day Theories. Im a huge fan. Sometimes you have to stand back and remind everybody that were playing a horrific scene, but your characters dont quite know how horrific it is. Thats whats so great about our show we have a lot of rehearsal time. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The finale had plenty of closure. Im sad because I love my friends and when you spend eight years with people, you really become a family. "I have this Forrest Gump-ian way of touching something and it becomes a hit!" [spoiler] What happened on Labor Day? Like she instinctively yelled out for Gary and then realizes it. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Yes, 85 percent of people said theyd like to know what Gary and Selina were referring to in Season 4s legendary East Wing blowup when he yelled, Can you find somebody else who did what I did? and she responded, You mean on Labor Day? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that theyd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2s Shutdown. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained., MANDEL RESPONDS: I didnt know the trash bag was on their minds quite as much, but thats fascinating. ", Hale had dropped a hint about the finale before it aired, "You reap what you sow," and he seems to apply that to Gary almost as much as Selina. "When somebody else comes to her, it was so hard to watch that and not run to her," shares Hale. Im just gonna simply say too easy. "For twentysomething years, he had lived in this fantasy and it shook him, and hopefully it woke him out of that to where he can begin living his life. That they murdered somebody just too easy," Mandel says. So that's what brought him back to that funeral because everybody else could care less about her, but he had this kernel of authentic love for her. About half of those people, without provocation, also added that they'd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2's "Shutdown.". Its so fun to work with somebody whos on the same page. I think we all hope youll miss each other enough that youll come up with something down the line. Shell be the ventriloquist and Ill be the dummy. It wasnt for the finale; it was just to have been a jump ahead to the funeral, the idea being that they plan the funeral, something gets messed up, and now youre seeing the funeral, and youre seeing the things she wanted to not happen. 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Ill be vice president! almost reluctantly is one of my absolute favorite jokes, and I think in some weird way very true to the spirit of all seven seasons of the original show, a show about the vice presidency. The most joy Gary ever had was when he would get the right lipstick; when he would get the right coat. When we see him, hes not looking so great. So I like that thats the way he heard it. Do you need me to fly back to New York and get a comb you left there? When Gary is being taken away by the FBI, he fights it until he sees that shes aware of whats happening. Some part of me almost wondered that had she asked him, he actually might have been willing to do it. From Austin Butler and Cate Blanchett to a potential Best Supporting Actress toss-up, see who EW thinks will win at the 2023 Oscars. "It was really emotional because it was the last episode and that was us kind of saying goodbye even though we had other stuff to shoot," he says. (An earlier version of the script had him saying that she looked stunning.) But history cannot deny how many times she ran for the presidency and how badly she wanted it. ", Filming that pivotal sell-out scenein which Selina knows that the end is nigh for Garywas challenging for both actors, given the weight of the moment (and the fact that this would be the last scene in which Louis-Dreyfus and Hale shared the screen). Shes not one to examine her own feelings, but is she sad, angry, and disgusted at herself for turning on Gary and on everyone and everything else?The great thing about my job these last four years is, I get to write very simple things or talk to Julia about very simple concepts and go, Now play that. Then she does four million things with her face and I get to sit back and revel in it. So for him to lay the lipstick on the casket? I chose my job, and now Ive been given this opportunity. There was anger in his farewell words, but also a sense of love. Number two, I think there was a sense of, this is the final season. But when she referred to him as a middle-aged man who gets me my wipes, he had to actually face what she thought of him. Again, not through emotional words, but just in his support. They were putting those two things together and thinking that education is bad, and Im sorry, I think thats wrong. On a personal note, Mandel says the Rizzoli & Isles writers were wonderful neighbors. Its time to make everybody pay. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Weve known who Selina was for seven seasons, but this season and this finale in particular took it to the next level and showcased just how ruthless and self-serving she is. Warning: This story contains plot details from Sundays series finale of Veep. "It was like you've got a 10,000-piece puzzle and it's that one last tiny piece and it fits in perfectly. It was a clever nod to the pilot, in which Mike had posited that the latest Meyer lemon would be overshadowed by even bigger news: What if Tom Hanks dies?. If you like TVLine, you'll LOVE our email news alerts! Thats hard to say goodbye to. Youd hate the flowers, he said, in an unusually seething manner, before adding, but I brought the Dubonnet.Gary then placed the lipstick he had saved for Selinas nomination night on top of her casket. I think for the rest of her life she will tell herself it was worth it. I can't imagine the amount of work that that woman had done to her face. Oh, no, no, no!' Not to keep it Francis Ford Coppola [the director of The Godfather trilogy who also directed Apocalypse Now], but The horror, the horror. And the realization of: so alone. It was nice to be able to let loose. Mandel imagines that Selina is haunted when shes alone and that in those moments of silence, she cries herself to sleep over Gary the most. What else could she do that would be even worse than breaking up with Jaffar? Yes, maybe not specifically worrying about wheres Catherine and not specifically worrying about wheres Kent [Gary Cole], but all of that hits her. Regardless of any of that, having taken the time off we did, Im not going to lie, I wanted to come out fighting. But one cant be surprised by everything horrific and morally bankrupt that she does after seeing her in action like that.Were taking advantage of something that Ive talked a lot about, which is people sometimes say to themselves, Oh, I want Selina to be president. And its always like, Well, no. she concluded. Andrew met Selina Eaton in 1988 at the beginning of her senior year at Smith. She cant even say it to him. : r/Veep - Reddit; 2.Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic - TVLine Veep deliberately feints, more than once, toward real, textual tragedySelina's horrible, accidental execution of her ex-husband, Andrew ( David Pasquesi ), or Amy's suspicion that . I started to wonder why Selina Meyer was being punished. Sie knnen Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ndern. Mike says Tom won four Oscars, so was the fourth for Philadelphia 2?You think so? And you got to us, and it was the clip of Selina yelling at Penny Nickerson from Congressional Ball, and she just tears into her and her dress, and how shes gonna shake her district like a nanny from South America, and up her husbands ass with cancer, all this stuff. Its sort of the way I treat my in-laws, which is, I never say their name, because my instinct is to call them Mr. And Im certainly not gonna call them by their first name, so I just avoid calling them.. I dont think she particularly wants to help the world. Sufe Bradshaw returned as Sue to the White House, which was a feel-good surprise in a brutal episode. Thats throughout your life, if thats what youre going to invest in the world, and thats the end of your life. A tinge. Jess remembered that Selina cares for horses, an indication she does have a heart. She roots for Selina because she is unapologetically female in a mans world. PMC Entertainment. But in a career of amoral political moves, and especially in a recent tornado of decisions that saw her cravenly crave a return to the Oval Office at all costsselling out her daughter Catherine (Sarah Sutherland) by outlawing same-sex marriage, selling out Tibet by secretly okaying a Chinese invasion, selling out America by choosing dangerous dolt Jonah (Timothy Simons) as her VPit definitively answered the question that was thematically draped over the season: How far will Selina go to get what she wants? Just because Id like to see how the two will function without each other and see who suffers the most. Kent is certainly hard to read, but again, if you were the right kind of person for a lot of these people, I think you could survive. But I doubt were going to get it. They were very lovely, we miss them, and my mom loved the show, he says. When history looks back on Selina Meyer, Im not sure anyone will ever have anything great to say about her being vice president or either of the times she was president. Thats the outcome of living a life like she did. He always wanted to match her. And theres no coming back. Its been a process of first when her mom dies, little bits about her father. Sex toy covered in shit. On the contrary. I moved for the past seven years anytime she said that and the fact that I had to stay there was like, 'Aww, dammnit! ", "You look beautiful," he said, loyal to the very end that he did not know was here. 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